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Roundtable Meeting 2020 03

Volunteering Facilitator: Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist

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Sunday, March 22nd, 2020 at 13:00:00 UTC time (click to check time zone in your location)
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Thu 19 Mar 2020 12:00 GMT-0000Thu 19 Mar 2020 13:00 GMT-0000Thu 19 Mar 2020 14:00 GMT-0000Thu 19 Mar 2020 15:00 GMT-0000Thu 19 Mar 2020 16:00 GMT-0000Thu 19 Mar 2020 17:00 GMT-0000Thu 19 Mar 2020 18:00 GMT-0000Sun 22 Mar 2020 12:00 GMT-0000Sun 22 Mar 2020 13:00 GMT-0000Sun 22 Mar 2020 14:00 GMT-0000Sun 22 Mar 2020 15:00 GMT-0000Sun 22 Mar 2020 19:00 GMT-0000
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Topics

First hour, quick news

  1. Tiki 21 status
  2. Demo of the new plugin List Execute in action: clone item
    • https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/commit/ea6f50574b0dc8e19fc5a5dd979686a0c10d872f (main)
    • https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/commit/bec107dd655c236dc31abfc12c3a9bfddb2d4a13 (auto select fix)
    • https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki/-/commit/43e10f9d51baae9a4174e254973dd4ad8ab2e987 (checkbox fix)
  3. Quickly review the evolution of bug reporting in the last years. Some charts and tables made by several criteria:
    1. Nice, but very slow, let's look at facets too!
  4. Bug tracker improvements
    1. We now have conditional Tracker Field Rules - might they help?
    2. Priority field is the wrong way up, a higher number means lower priority - also, incomplete ones show as 0 (top priority)

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Second hour, longer topics

  1. Git commit/merge request/fork improve/updated guidelines
    After the Tiki 21 release experience and due to a certain numbers of discussions (devlist and gitlab) we need to adjust and improve our guidelines on Git and Tiki.
    Also we switched from SVN to Git so we need to be sure all people are good with that and will be able to participate
    Related discussions in the mailin list (https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum.php?forumId=26)
    • Tiki-devel: Semi-automatic merging also Re: Tikiwiki-cvs/svn SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:75741 trunk

      Fabio on 4/03/2020:
      Well, I vote for each developer applying his fixes in each branch. This is one of tasks Git makes easy. But I can help you. I misbehave on that because I know my fixes would be magically ported from one branch to another.
      Brendon on 10/03/2020:
      Ok, so it's a clear consensus that automated back ports of fixes into LTS is a bad idea.

      So the question is. Do we abandon our automated porting? Do we continue to forward port, or do we back-port within development versions? Or a combination there of.

    • Tiki-devel: Create your fork

      Fabio wrote on 4/03/2020:
      Forks are nice. Using forks we can eat spaghetti, potatoes, olives and also, we can develop Tiki!

      I know that should be straightforward creating branches in main repository,but that makes a little mess on subgit bridge and SourceForge branches folder.

      So, if you don't mind creating branches in a fork, it would be awesome.

      You don't even need a separate folder for your fork. Use the Tiki folder you already have.

      Let's say I'm creating Tiki mustache. But cloned from main repository and the mustache will take some time to make it beautiful. I need a branch.

      1) Create a fork (my fork is git at gitlab.com:fabiomontefuscolo/tiki.git)

      2) Add your fork as a remote to your local repository

      >> git remote add fabio git at gitlab.com:fabiomontefuscolo/tiki.git

      3) Create the branch you need

      >> git checkout -b cowboy-mustache

      4) Work, make commits .. if your branch lasts for more than one day ... update it getting changes from origin (the main repository). Let's say I branched from master, I get updates from master.

      if you already pushed cowboy-mustache in the past:
      >> git fetch origin
      >> git merge origin/master

      OR

      if your branch is just a local branch
      >> git fetch origin
      >> git rebase origin/master

      5) Save it to your forked repo

      >> git push -u fabio cowboy-mustache

      6) Mustache is ready, send it to main repository

      If you want to open a MergeRequest, do it in Gitlab pannel

      OR

      If you want to send it directly to main git repository

      >> git checkout master
      >> git merge cowboy-mustache
      >> git push origin master

    • Tiki-devel: Minor releases

      Fabio wrote on 4/03/2020:
      Hi people!

      I would like to understand about minor releases cycle. It is not clear to me when we release the minor releases, but surely, it is less frequent than I would like.

      If there is no rule to create a minor release, why don't we make it weekly or bi-weekly, so we can have updated packages for download with all vendor_bundled installed?

      Honestly, I don't like the approach of downloading Tiki in the server and building it there. On server I am not the admin, I have argue a lot with the administrator to install build tools to have an updated TikiWiki software.

      Thank you!

    • Clarification needed about Tiki GIT usage

      bsfez wrote on 5/03/2020:
      - Light fixes, translation, doc and commit by VIP coder => merged to the repo directly
      - More complex fixes or commit done by newbee or requiring approval before being merged => create a merge request, wait for approval
      - For feature that require experimental branch => use a fork branch
      Fabio:
      I suggest MR authors poke someone in the community to review the changes, to avoid MR stuck forever. The reason is simple: each member in the community has knowledge in different parts in Tiki. I don't feel confident to review requests related to Tracker calculations for example. So, asking directly some would be better.

      You might ask, how to search for the correct person? ... I also suggest reading logs of files you are changing to find out who is the author of past changes. These authors might be a good person to review it.

    • Tiki-devel: Before start coding on 21.x today

      Fabio wrote on 26/02/2020:

      1. to save your uncommitted stuff

      $ git stash

      1. go to 21.x

      $ git checkout 21.x

      1. get changes I had to resync

      $ git fetch https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki.git 21.x

      1. ahhh dirtyness

      $ git reset --hard FETCH_HEAD

      before coding on 21.x any other day

      $ git pull --rebase

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Recording

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Follow-Up

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Chat log

Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):NO i CAnt hear hou guys but the Mac is booting now!!!
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):will be back soon
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):aoutch we started
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):ok
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):alright
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):hi guys
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Hi
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Gary can you review my grammar later then for the article?
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):Hi Jean-Marc
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):Sure
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Cheers
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):luci, are you going to do the tiki.org article first, then facebook, etc.?
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):yes
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):ok
Xavier de Pedro (xavi):Re Tiki 21.0, I'm worried about this new bug report: https://dev.tiki.org/item7325-Template-groups-Fix-or-make-optional?from=Tiki21
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Xavi: Isuspect something incompatible in the applied Profile?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):hahhah
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Template groups is not a feature enabled by default, is itt?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Getting ready for JM big gain audio !!!
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):hahahah
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Xavi: just question - on show instance did you apply the profile too?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):may I suggest people not being in the discussion and presenter to close their webcam ?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Sound start to be choppy
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Lovely boxes
Guest: lindon:Hi Gary Cunningham-Lee!
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci)::D
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Yes
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):yes
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):There's an expand icon at top right of shared screen to make it full screen.
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Looks like a tea to me
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):The curse of the demo! 🙈🙊🐒
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):nice
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Bernard Sfez - a PluginList specialist
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):yes curse of the demo
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):+1 for CSS. You are making is intuitive for end users.
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):or more tracker items, right?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Thanks Marc
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Ricardo added https://doc.tiki.org/PluginPreference to give more powers to users without giving them tiki_p_admin
Xavier de Pedro (xavi):luci: profile was applied in the show2.t.o instance also of the bug report to reproduce the issue
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Marc, yup, cool, but it did not work for me
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Marc as I reported in the comment
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):on avantech
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):is that fixed now?
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):Thanks roberto for dd565cf8
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Thanks Luci :-)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):"or more tracker items, right?" yes
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):yeah @jonny
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Or just closed by still in new
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):First I remember that I started to report bugs around 2010 :-D
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):Elastic search will be set up shortly on the *.tiki.org sites.
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Yup, closed with New resolution status is quite common too
Xavier de Pedro (xavi):See also this chart: http://dev.tiki.org/Bug-report-evolution-importance (with only open and pending)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):But nice charts anyway, very helpful to get an overview! Thanks Xavi!
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Thanks !
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):+1
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Before automation, you need a convention
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):https://tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wishlist%20Triage%20Team
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Bernard
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):we have this
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):21.x now on the show2 dropdown (n.b. had to clear caches)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):ta jonny
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Data-driven decision making :-)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Luci, yeah... great Gezza is there :-D
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci)::D
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Should I kick him off? ;)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):well he clearly said that he : "have no time for philanthropic stuff and we should remove hi from anything Tiki".
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Fired!
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez)::-)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Brendan helped recently to close the old ones. I think it is good approach to closse them and add a note "if it is still valid, please re-open"
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Exactly :-)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):(Luci)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Jonny, we can use the conditional fields for that?
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):the new feature using vuejs?
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):also I wanted to use it for the version reported and show.tiki.org field - but I could not figure out how to do that
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):Bug triage loks like a great way of getting acquainted to all Tiki bits and parts for newcomers
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):s/loks/looks/
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):Updated https://dev.tiki.org/How-to-release%3A-Branching#show.tiki.org
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):now we have better tools so it can be reversed (mathematically)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):it should be easy for humans first, then we find a way to make it work with computers
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):if it's hard to understand or not intuitive for humans we lost it already
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):But in human language it makes sense - when you say "it is a number one priority", you know what I mean
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):yes
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):@luci, just what I was thinking.
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):priority 1 should mean most important
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):... 10 is biggest = more important imo :-D
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):importance yes
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):priority no
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):agree
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):it should match language first
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):yes
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):importance 10 is very important
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):priority 1 is top priority
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):(y)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):\o/
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):👍🏻
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):J-M I muted you, your mic gain is high, sorry
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):👍🏻too
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):👍🏼️😂️
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):yeah... what I was saying ????
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Why don't we just put Low, Moderate, High and labels like that and keep the numbers as the values for that field as is?
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):https://dev.tiki.org/How-to-release%3A-Branching#show.tiki.org
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Big enough swap should work too
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):and color (red - orange - yellow) ? I mean we can make it much more "2020 user friendly"
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):5
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):i'm good
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):http://doc.tiki.org/Tracker-Field-Rules
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):thanks
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):lol
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Boum ! (hahaha), says the coyote
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):I will try on nextdev first ;)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):https://tiki.org/Roundtable-Meeting-2020-03
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):what a relief
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):much better, thanks B :-)
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):Let's go for it
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci)::D :-D :-D
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):yes
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):yes
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):y
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Fabio ! You look exactly like my Avatar in Call of Duty. :-D :-D :-D :-D
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Sadly, when I switch the legacy field on nextdev, I get Error when trying to edit ans save an item :-( : Error Not found
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):Being an avatar is his other part-time job :-)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez)::D
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Jonny, try editing an item on NEXTDEV here in the Edit modal to reproduce the error: http://nextdev.tiki.org/item7282-New-user-registration-at-tiki-org-returns-An-error-occurred-while-performing-the-request-screen?from=User#contenttabs_view_tracker_item-1
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):yes, +1 to keep that model going
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):why don't developers do it manually?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):JM: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.activision.com%2Fcall-of-duty%2F2020-02%2FThe-Allegiance-Operators-of-Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-bring-Mace-to-Battle&psig=AOvVaw3Bdxm7B-OOOVf0OdnPmjwt&ust=1584973199067000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCOiJnLmjrugCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAG
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):like we fix in 21, then merge manually to master
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):remove the semi automatic merging that seems to break?
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):semi automatic kinda sounds like an oxymoron anyways
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci)::)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):same as Bernard
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):forgotten in 9 minutes
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):like the snoozing
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):lol
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):👍🏼️
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):now!
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):try now :-)
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):A brave script!
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):hahahahhaah
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Why not doing it for each minor release (as Fabio suggested every week ?)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Jonny: it worked on DEV though, so please ignore for now: https://dev.tiki.org/item7219-User-Wizard-needs-to-be-converted-to-Bootstrap4?from=User
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):DEV has legacy edit disabled now
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):\o/
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):lol
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):ACAM
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):period
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):JM, sorry, try that one :-D https://codmwstore.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Brawler-768x768.jpg
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):and tell me you don't see Fabio :-D
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):hahahahahahahahaha
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):;-)
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):I need a shotgun
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):And more beard
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):I can find... :-D
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):you would need for each branch a script which will define "merge with trunk and backport to this and this branch (but not the others, because of PHP 5.6 compatibility e.g.)"
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):that is what you concluded too, right?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):You mean the one in console?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):php console.php vcs:update
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):no, the doc/devtools/svnup.php
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):If you stop Subgit, how will you sync it to the readonly svn then?
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):aha, ok, yep, I wonder if it will be mature enough
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):@Ricardo, release.php still gets contributors from sourceforge
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):"List of members of the community"
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Indeed Jonny
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):And setup.sh says "if your'e installing or upgraded from svn"
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):JM please lower mic gain?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Maybe announce that Tiki 21.x LTS is Git only?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):So when https://doc.tiki.org/Tiki18 is EoL, SVN support ceases.
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):I would keep SVN support but read-only forever (or till Subversion and sf.net exists)
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):it is super loud
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):yeah mic
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):maybe in settings
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):way better
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):thanks
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Thank you :-D
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):wow!! super better
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):can we do that at the beginning next time?
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Yes, we got it
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):couldn't get what you said for the last 2 hours sorry
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):but it was too loud
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):https://serverfault.com/a/212191
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):January 2023,
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Iphone users will be happy !
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):every week or... more
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):agreed with B
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):also shows that tiki is very active
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):a patch version every week, same day of the week
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):(y) :-)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Who is cleaning the room there?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):we need auto release, auto update, auto dyson ! :-D
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):sub version
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):major minor patch
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):semver
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Tiki Manager permits 1-click updates
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):semver sucks for humans but unfortunately universal as composer uses it :-(
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Probably here soon too ;)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):There are some bugs (I reported) but otherwise it works just fine
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):same here then :-)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):I reported the bug on gitlab btw
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):is that the right place?
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):for Tiki Manager?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):CLI was perfect, I had issues with the web interface (but was 6 or 8 month ago)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):https://gitlab.com/tikiwiki/tiki-manager/-/issues/7
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):http://doc.tiki.org/How-to-install-Tiki-Manager-on-ClearOS Just ignore ClearOS-specific things
Jonny Bradley (jonnybradley):was just looking at that page Marc, it starts with installing svn?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):I will update
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Jonny: bad news, the rules for the conditional fields do not work here at dev.tiki.org (it should hide the "Demonstrate bug (pre 19.x)" field according my rules: https://dev.tiki.org/item7219-User-Wizard-needs-to-be-converted-to-Bootstrap4
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Who is cooking? I am hungry :-)
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Could the dishes wait? ;)
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):hahhahahahhaah
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Hi Salete!
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci)::D
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):yes
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):question
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):what is she cooking?
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):LOL
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):What's for dinner
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):hahaahhahahah
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):almost lunch time here
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):here too
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Kubernetes soon! (Docker)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):!
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):great
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):JOnny: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=How+to+install+Tiki+Manager+on+ClearOS&newver=44&oldver=43
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):i'll show docker with es and mail next time. couldn't prepare the presentation for this time
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):evoludata !!!
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Guill: np
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):There will?
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Yes please Guill
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Guill (like the one from Street Fighter ?) :-D
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):@Jonny: it works to hide the obsolete "Demo your bug using jCapture" if empty though! Cool!
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):(I suppose my rule will make it show only for the old items if not empty)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):B: yes!
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):(except for the hairstyle)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez)::-)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):(and the nationality)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):(and the body)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):and the kicks too I guess :-D
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):(but else yeah exactly the same)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):I'm still trying to figure out how git rollback work, so these elaborate things are for after. :-)
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):revert
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):revert to where? there is no release number
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):just revert
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez)::)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):there's several options
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):like resetting to any commit number
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):at gitlab you have revert button (among the options)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):*hash
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):I'll figure it out. This is not the right place :-)
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):Just saying it takes time and things need to be done one at a time
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):https://gitlab.com/bsfez/tiki/-/settings/repository
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):yep, normal
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):that is also "noirmal"
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):"normal"
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):yes
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):https://wikisuite.org/Kubernetes
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):frozen?
Jean-Marc Libs (Jyhem):no, not frozen
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):ah, it is back
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):https://kubernetes.io
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):https://gitlab.com/fabiomontefuscolo/kube-tiki/-/blob/master/resources/tiki-deployment.yaml
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):(my connection is maybe too cold)
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Here it is: https://wikisuite.email
Fabio Montefuscolo (montefuscolo):https://wikisuite.email/tiki-index.php
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Fabio used https://containo.us/traefik/
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):What is wikisuite.email for?
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Did you say "storage"?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):hahahhahahah
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):https://12factor.net/
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):I need to go soon...
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):same here...
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):This is over my brain capacity anyways I think... ;-)
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):thanks fabio!
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Something for Jonny ;) -> https://vue.land/
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Ansible?
Marc Laporte (marclaporte):Here is: https://avan.tech/item42247-2020-05-Cloud-Native-Tiki-Tiki22-should-use-object-storage
luciash d' being 🧙‍♂️ (luci):Gotta leave, thanks everyone! Will watch the rest later! BB!
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):bye !
Gary Cunningham-Lee (chibaguy):Sorry, everyone, I have to go also. Thanks.
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):Bye Gary
Roberto Kirschbaum (robertokir):byb gary
Bernard Sfez / Tiki Specialist (Bsfez):I don't like having data stored anywhere else than my server or customer servers
Guill (guillaume.leclerc):bye luci. bye gary


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