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    Posted by bristolguy posts: 8 United States

    I'm interested in setting up a multi-site installation. My intent is to have multple subdomains, with each subdomain accessing a portion of a single TW instance, or to its own TW system (multiple installs). I expect to have 500 to 1000 users for each subdomain.

    My question is whether I should create a single TW install or multiple (one for each subdomain)?

    Thanks.

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    Posted by cgc0202 posts: 102

    Hi bristol,

    Consider this: Each Tikiwiki program takes about 35MB of diskpace.

    10 installs x 35MB = 350MB
    100 => 3,500MB
    1000???? =>

    Then, you have to setup each of them. If you ever change any particular layout or feature, you have to change each. That is also the case with upgrades, when you do such in the future. I could think of more during the short time that I have started using TikiWiki the past few months.

    Also, your visitors have to register and login for each, if they want to visit those sites.

    Now the flipside:

    If you use a single TikiWiki to run all of them, and one goes bad, attacked, or whatever, then all your sites are down. This is an issue of centralized vs decentralized system.

    In my case, I think I will most likely use a hybrid.

    My problem right now, as well as other posters here (I have seen a number of threads already) is that the experts here keep on pointing to Mose's documentation to MultiTiki1.9 installation, when less knowledgeable people like me have already stated that the Mose's document is not very clear. More important, it seems that Mose's and the other related documentation I have read were more intended for users who have complete access to the server where it is installed.

    Right now, I use a shared-server webhosting service for my account. We do not have root access. and, we cannot just restart the server (since it is not near me). We are not allowed to change some init parameters.

    I am also not familiar with shell access. The other people using the Webhosting service as well as tech support there go out of their way to help answer questions, but no one there uses Tikiwiki, so no one could answer the questions that I and many others here have tried begging to be answered, as it is not clear.

    I could fresh install a Tikiwiki 1.9x now in less than 5min — using the Browser-based installation provided.

    By the way, I should take the time to thank the core group and whoever did the documentation for doing such a great job on the installation browser and the instructions that came with it. That is an example that with a well-writtten instructions, even a person without much background in programming/software like me can install a Tikiwiki.

    If you (or anyone here) are knowledgeable with the details of or have done the MultiTiki installations itself, I would be interested to ask some clarifications

    What I know how to use with the browser-based installation are to use an FTP program to upload theTikiwiki program, use the Main Control Panel and the phpMyAdmin of my website to create the databases, username (password), change the permissions of the files, access the database itself to see if the preliminary installations worked, etc.

    My main question. Is there a way to use the well-written and executable "browser-based" installation also to perform a MultiTiki installation — together with the tools cited above?

    I understand that it may take a bit longer than the shell access installation but if the above could be done, I can do it myself.

    The other issue that I need clarification on is whether the MultiTiki installation can be done in a shared server environment — where I have literally no physical access to it except through the internet; and that we cannot just turn it on and off, nor change certain Apache or other server paramaters at will.

    Considering that there are many threads of users I have read here have asked similar questions, I am sure we will be eternally grateful, and you will help us all a lot.

    And one last request.. please do not respond cryptically "Read MultiTiki 1.9" installation. As the others have already posted, those of us who were asking the question have already read that, and all the other MultiTiki installation procedures.

    Somehow, something is missing, or some of the protocols are not applicable to the server environment we have to use.

    Helen Keller

    Let me relate the story of Helen Keller, from an old movie I saw on TV reruns. She got sick when she was less than 2yo that left her deaf and blind, so she was also mute. She was literally a savage. I believe the father was ready to have her committed to an asylum because she was considered a lost cause, but the mother was adamant that she stayed at home, where she could be nurtured.

    Fortunately, her parents were well-off enough so that they could hire a tutor to try to care for her and teach her, if that is at all possible.

    The big break in Keller's life was having a very patient person, Anne Sullivan, who never wavered. Anne went down to the level of the young girl Helen. She did not understand letters, let alone words (with sign language) and it frustrated her. Through patience, Anne eventually was able to teach her how to use her hands to form the letters and then finally combine letters to form words — but they had no meaning, she could not associate them with any of the objects in her physical environment.

    Anne did not give up — she never considered that Helen was too stupid. One day, it was the feel of water that she finally made the connection between the the word "water" and the physical manifestion of the word. And that was broke her prison....

    She became internationally famous as a public speaker and her work to help other people like her.


    cgc0202



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